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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2013.08.08 13:51:00 -
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Haramir Haleths wrote:Bumping is bad game mechanic roleplaying wise. Spaceships shouldn't bump without any damage.
I think that would cause an issue at the busy hubs. Even if it did cause damage, it would just scratch the shields a bit. In the long run I dont think the work required to patch this into existence would be worth the change to the game mechanics. |

Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2014.02.10 17:10:00 -
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Jessie JoeCarr wrote:I don't know if this has been thought of, but what about a deployable web? All ships within a 5km radius are slowed to minimal speed... It'd stop people bumping miners, I'm currently having to hide my barge in a group of roids for the same effect. Guy keeps ramming me with his stabber at full speed... I've told him repeatedly I'm not paying... but he continues to do it... it spoils the game. Might seem pathetic but what if CCP took out all the lasers? wouldn't that ruin it for those who like shooting stuff? I enjoy my own RP, currently mining to get an Orca, but this kid ramming me just throws it all out of wack...
The guy is the ONLY one in the system doing it... he bugs everyone... i it was a system with 3-6 of them doing it... ok but it's one looser doing it.... he needs to be moved on or something...
He isnt ruining your game. He is providing you an opportunity to participate in the game rather than play solo. Also what difference does it make if he is the only one there? He is trying to maximize his profit margin... doesnt make him a loser.
Sandbox man. Sandbox. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2014.02.20 14:34:00 -
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Arenwa Damarmur wrote:Why not develop a module or a rig that prevents a ship from being bumped out of alignment?
Why would you? Killboard
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2014.03.12 01:21:00 -
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And replace it with what? Nothing? I don't see how nothing happening when colliding with another ship is anymore realistic than the ship moving away. If anything, the "bump" that occurs could be attributed to the ships navigation system taking an emergency maneuver to avoid the collision. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:20:00 -
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Good god people, give it a break! Its a game mechanic! If you dont like it, dont play!! Killboard
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Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2014.07.07 19:30:00 -
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Gui Tiaowu wrote:For bullies, the "ends" are merely satisfying the impulse to bully. The fact others will join them in their ends is unfortunately an historic truth.
We find bullies building elaborate justifications for their bullying behavior. For some it is the rationalization that it is all just PvP in a PvP game.
Not to mention, CCP enables and encourages bullying.
kek
Know where thats from?
Go back. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:48:00 -
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I am confused..... Killboard
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If you didnt vote Psychotic Monk, you voted for Hello Kitty in space |

Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:06:00 -
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Gui Tiaowu wrote:Me too. Maybe Capt Starfox could clarify by stating something like: "Every now and then sensible and fundamentally decent people will embark, all of a sudden, on courses of which they themselves are the first to disapprove. In these cases the evil-doer acts as though he were possessed by some entity different from and hostile to his ordinary self. In fact, he is the victim of a neutral mechanism, which has got out of hand and, from being the servant of its possessor, has become his master." See if I got the quote thing right.
And that has what to do with my kill board? Killboard
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Leto Thule
Narwhals Ate My Duck. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:48:00 -
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Kek. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.01 05:48:00 -
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Lol bumping a criminal offense? Dude, the jita 4-4 undock would be a constant massacre. You do realize that what you are asking for would in actuality make the game vastly more dangerous than it is now, right? Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.01 13:57:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Lol bumping a criminal offense? Dude, the jita 4-4 undock would be a constant massacre. You do realize that what you are asking for would in actuality make the game vastly more dangerous than it is now, right? Did you read what I suggested? Did I say "hey, let's have CONCORD come and massacre every bumper, that sure would make them game better!"? Or did I instead suggest that gank victims get 60 seconds of being able to warp off without impediment by bumping, in essence CONCORD escorting them from the scene of the crime. Or perhaps this is what you referred to in making the game "vastly more dangerous." Please explain further.
"Criminal" would mean flags.
Flags mean lawful engagements.
Do the math. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:32:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote: Tank won't help you if you get bumped and hit by multiple waves of gankers. Eve is losing the new/casual players who don't want to see their life savings blown up by career -10 sec status gankers.
Stop it.
There are multiple ways to avoid this, and multiple ways to counter it when it happens. They involve using spacefriends.
This is NOT A SOLO game. Its meant to be played with others.
As for the new players not staying?
If they only seek to turn EvE into a kiddie pool, they dont need to be here. Its the same as its always been. There has always been ganking, and there have always been new players. Quite honestly, if you are turned off by losing ships in a game about losing ships, the game is not your cup of tea.
Now, save what face you have left, apologize for wishing nerfdom upon our game, and we can call it good. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:51:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Highsec doesn't depend on spacefriends. It depends on being able to survive until CONCORD comes and saves you. That's what ships fit for - survive the initial alpha. What CODE is doing now is using bumping to negate the role of CONCORD.
Oh, but it does! That is the key to your problems! The whole game revolves around who to trust, who not to trust, not to trust anyone, being a total **** to advance your own goals while trying to find buddies who share the same end goal.
If you use a BUDDY to scout, you WONT end up in a gank! Read your posts man, you are just wrong in this whole thing, and I am saying that objectively, not being a douche.
If this has been your experience thus far, you should consider doing something else in-game. Fly with some buddies. Its more fun, trust me. Im not trolling you.
We like our game the way it is (actually we liked it better before the highsec nerf train). This game has been around for over a decade. It isnt going anywhere just because some people lose a freighter or six.
(Also... new players dont fly freighters, so they wont be quitting because of losing one..)  Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.03 13:42:00 -
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It actually sort of hurts.
(No, not when I pee, thank GOD thats over with!)
Reading the repeated requests for nerfs, even after it has been plainly, and politely explained that the tools already exist to prevent being ganked.
For the love of god just use a freakin scout. Its so goddamn easy.
Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:41:00 -
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Veers is clearly unable to discern "what IS" from "what HE wants".
Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.04 15:56:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Veers is clearly unable to discern "what IS" from "what HE wants".
No, what IS is all the freighters blown up yesterday because of bumping (my understanding is that bumping is used even for the initial go around. This is because if they just pointed the freighter, CONCORD would start responding, and the -10 sec status guys don't undock until the target is pinned down, and that would cut their total damage applied to the freighter). What I want is a mechanics change so that post gank-attempt you get 60 seconds to warp off unaffected by bumping. Obviously this would not assist the freighters who die from the initial wave (and there are enough gankers in these groups so that they don't need to push the freighters off the gate guns), but I don't see any clean way to differentiate between casual and harmless bumping on the one hand, and gank-assistance bumping on the other.
"An interesting game. The only winning move is not to play." - "Joshua", the A.I. from "Wargames"
If those freighters had used proper scouting and were flying correctly (bookmarks, instadocks, insta-undocks) they would not require a mechanics change. Once the fish is on the hook, its already too late. Use a scout, use bookmarks, fly smart, and you dont need to worry about being ganked. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.04 16:34:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
The reality is that a lot of people in highsec play this game solo.
Yes, and the reality of that decision is that you are vulnerable. That is the trade off.
You keep saying that gankers are warp disrupting by bumping. This is untrue. Warp disruption is a module that lowers your warp core strength by one point (hence called a "point"), rendering you unable to initiate warp if you have no core stabilizers fit. Warp SCRAMBLE lowers your warp core strenghth by TWO points, rendering at least 1 stab inert and also preventing the use of warp modules such as MWD's and MJD's.
BUMPING prevents ALIGNMENT, not warping. They are two separate mechanics. I assume you already know this, however it does need to be pointed out, as some may not. When your ship reaches its alignment and speed requirement to initiate warp, you warp. This is why its useful to have a friend with webs, to lower your maximum speed possible, therefore lowering the time it takes you to reach that modified speed. But again, you probably know this.
So, in essence, you are requesting the game to be changed so that you can play it solo. You want to ignore the tools you have at your disposal to prevent being ganked in favor of an "I win" button in the form of a CONCORD escort out of the fire.
You keep attributing CONCORD to a real world police presence. They are not. CONCORD is binary (On/Off). They exist for the sole reason of relieving a red card holder of his ship, nothing more.
Real world police will attempt to get innocents out of the line of fire and into safety, but in the real world, they are not invincible. So, im fine with your CONCORD acting like real police, as long as that means that CONCORD can be engaged and destroyed too. Also, since CONCORD is a police agency, I assume we will start seeing weigh stations and toll booths, as well as a bill of lading required for your cargo, a Material Safety Data Sheet for any HAZMATS you may be transporting, the required license to operate the ship you are flying, an up to date registration card, and make sure you keep your speed down. Gets ridiculous, doesnt it? Thats why its a game, and they arent police.
Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.04 17:29:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote: This ground has been covered before, so I will try to keep it short.
It has in fact been covered.
Now, explain WHY the game should change to allow for solo play, when the tools exist for you to prevent the gank without the change.
You are banging your head into a brick wall. Someone is offering you a helmet, but you want the wall to become softer so you dont need it.
Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:38:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote: 1. A lot of players in Eve find the game difficult.
It is suppose to be that way Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.08 16:38:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Nerf train ideas
Veers, your name has been added to the new program "Gank it forward". (Homage to Feyd)
For every request for a ganking nerf, TWO freighters will be ganked, and YOUR name will provided to the victims for reimbursement. This thread will be cited in the mail they receive, referencing your repeated attempts to destroy EvE.
By their blood and tears will your comments be repented.
Burn the Heretic.
Purge the unclean.
Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.08 18:38:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Exxcellent! I try to contact the freighter pilot victims to give advice, but they usually ignore my convo request, figuring I am a ganker looking to mock them. I will be happy to discuss further with them, and will suggest that they post on the Eve forums about how CODE is abusing bumping, and how -10 sec status people should not even be allowed in highsec.
Keep up the good work!
Good, that works out for both of us then. Because for every post they come here crying about, two more will be ganked.
Look for the first two (caused directly by YOU) to be delivered in the next few days. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.08 20:35:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
A few days to kill two freighters? Seriously? Loyalanon and his groupies could pull this off in a few minutes by pinning them down with bumping and having -10 sec status people swarm them. You need to find some new friends.
Job + baby = budgeted EvE time.
My current friends are just fine, thank you. They dont focus on ganks in hisec, but rather do it for fun when bored. So yes, it may take a day or so, but they will be delivered.
Also... you do realize that you dont have to be -10 to be a ganker, right? Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:18:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Oh look, it's Veers trying to get another thread locked with the same nonsense he posted in countless other threads already. Posting about bumping in a thread about bumping would not normally constitute trying to get a thread locked. As to other topics (including apparently blowing up freighters in my name), I am not the one who brought them up. My comments have focused on, and will continue to focus on, the use of bumping, mainly by your organization (though admittedly by others as well), to trap freighters and allow for multiple waves of ganks by the same gankers every 15 minutes. Hardly "nonsense." And for the record, there was precisely one thread I involved in that got locked - and it was locked because at 180-odd pages it had devolved into the same stale arguments without resolution, not because I was "trying to get a thread locked." Thanks. Of course you failed to mention that the victim had ample opportunity to avoid being bumped in the first place, but lets not allow facts to get in the way of a good whine.
It is an exquisite whine. I wonder if it would pair well with some cheese from Goblin. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.09 20:29:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote: Also lol, it doesn't take 20 gankers to kill a T1 hauler, it takes 1.
So THATS why our gank fleets never make a profit! Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.13 20:09:00 -
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I find it strange that people try to make a case for playing without friends.
It really is more FUN to play in a group, design of the game aside. Killboard
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Leto Thule
Fleet-Jump Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.09.14 22:23:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Leto Thule wrote:I find it strange that people try to make a case for playing without friends.
It really is more FUN to play in a group, design of the game aside. Any progress on the two freighters you were supposed to kill in my name for your "gank it forward program?" I haven't gotten any Eve mails and am eagerly awaiting. If you need tips on how to gank them, I'm available for consulting, for a fee of course. Look friends, Beers is growing up and trying to troll. I'm so proud of him. (That doing so goes against everything he's been arguing for in two threads for near on a month makes it even more sweet) Not trolling...just following up on the earlier post promising to blow freighters up because of my posts here. And the failure to respond to my post soon afterward about why such threat was unconvincing and unlikely to be acted on. An apology would be appropriate of course, not that I harbor much hope....
Apologize for the lack of response. Eve gate was blocked at work. Fckin government computers. One down, one to go.
Killboard
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2015.05.07 00:43:53 -
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Dana Goodeye wrote:well... this bumping effect is just silly, oki? a ruiser collide with a bs high speed, none of them got damaged, but its not enough, the bs gonna gain speed... its just silly. like when i cant warp, because an acceleration gate"bumping" me out of alligment, or an asteroid, and i got pointed, but i cant use them as a cover when i get shot. ccp, make these things uncollidable, or make us able to use them as cover against bullets, missiles -.- my frigs would like that :) and one more thing... in my opinion, if one or more ppl bumping me lets say 3 times, and this is one ppl, or they are in fleet, or same corp or alliance, it would be nice to get a duel invite from them automatically, but my fleet, corp and alliance could be ... i dont know the word for it... participate? well, if i would accept a bumping duel like this, my alliance corp and fleetmates would be able to shoot them too. think about it... escorting haulers in hisec would be a thing... it would be awesomeee =D ccp make it happen or i will bump you to death -.-
Please god no. Cover? This isn't an FPS.
Are you an asshole? Do you like flying with other assholes? Can you listen to the FC and not be horribad?
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.29 18:28:36 -
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La Rynx wrote:I always wondered WHY the bumping mechanics feel so wrong:
Not only there is no damage, BUT:
EvE is more an (U-)Boat Simulator! The movement is like movement in media like water, you have to put constant energy for your impetus.
And then there is bumping: Not only that there is no damage, the media slowing down you movement behaves even more WRONG! This displacement of that strange media (Dark Matter LOL) would absorb a lot of the collision energy too!. It feels so wrong, cause its very illogical An unneccessary easy mechanic gift for the gankers
Oh christ, YOU are back?
Try to imagine, for one second, that bumping is used by players other than gankers, outside of high sec, to do other things than kill industrials... because they do. EVE isnt focused on highsec ganking, so please try to research something before taking a stance on it.
Also lol @ your RL expectations. Its a game, and its not made by Jane's. Please show me where blasters, clone immortals and warp drives exist in real life.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2015.06.30 19:26:17 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Leto Thule wrote:
Also lol @ your RL expectations. Its a game, and its not made by Jane's. Please show me where blasters, clone immortals and warp drives exist in real life.
In my heart and dreams *sobs*
IKR
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Leto Thule
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2015.09.26 22:53:08 -
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admiral root wrote:GM Karidor wrote:**This forum post is now 3 year old and does not represent CCP-¦s current stance on the issue, as such it can be viewed as outdated** Which begs the question: what is your current stance?
Wait what??
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Leto Thule
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2015.09.29 22:38:39 -
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admiral root wrote:GM Karidor wrote:**This forum post is now 3 year old and does not represent CCP-¦s current stance on the issue, as such it can be viewed as outdated** Which begs the question: what is your current stance?
Bump
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
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Posted - 2015.10.19 22:06:57 -
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Dan Ende wrote:well my apologies, but I glanced through all 34 pages of this thread and didn't come across any that explained how to avoid it in the first place. or de-bump myself. can you point me in the right direction?
You seem to be exactly the kind of player the game needs. Accepting of the way things work is the best step in overcoming the obstacles.
The best thing you can do is never land on grid with the bumper. A scout alt that can web is your best bet, as a web will assist you in entering warp.
I know you stated you don't have an extra account. Maybe make some buddies? Hell, I'll do it for you if you pay me a small percentage of the haul. But you are flying a capital ship. It's not meant to operate solo.
More to answer your direct question... If you are solo, and being bumped by a guy who knows how, then no, you are at his mercy. I would suggest at that point asking for a ransom. You may get out, or you may not.
Hope it helps. Fly smart.
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
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Posted - 2015.11.07 01:06:36 -
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La Rynx wrote:CCP does consider.
Otherwise this unlucky mechanic would long be gone. However a rework could in fact mean, that humping will be removed. HOWEVER! IF (very big if) this happens, it is safe to assume, something will replace it.
Right now bumping is a cheap risk free action for the bumper. On the other hand, the possible victims have it much harder to counter this cheap techniques. That makes bumping unbalanced.
You know what else is risk free and needs to be nerfed? Forum alts! You should be required to post on the character with the most SP. That way jackwagons such as yourself would have to own up to their shitpoasting in-game.
And since your signiture block hasnt been removed, I feel safe in saying:
"You cant spell La Rynx without DOUCHE"
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